Showing posts with label Fraud. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Fraud. Show all posts

Monday, October 20, 2008

Vote Fraud, A Guilty Plea

This might be a bigger issue than I once thought. We now have a whole organization (actually at least 3) that admits that they conspired to illegally manipulate the vote.

And the best part is, it's not Acorn, it's not one, not two, but at least three branches of the Republican party.

An agreement announced today by Obama for America, the Republican National Committee, the Democratic National Committee, the Michigan Republican Party, the Michigan Democratic Party, the Macomb County Republican Party, the Macomb County Democratic Party, and plaintiffs Duane Maletski, Sharon Lopez, and Frances M. Zick protects the voting rights of foreclosure victims. The settlement acknowledges the existence of an illegal scheme by the Republicans to use mortgage foreclosure lists to deny foreclosure victims their right to vote. This settlement has the force of law behind it and ensures that Republicans cannot disenfranchise families facing foreclosure.


So the updated score those arrested or confessed to have committed election fraud (by party)

Republicans 2 (incidents, many more people)
Democrats 0

For those who actually fell for the Acorn hoo-haw and wonder about where it came from, I recommend you look into the term projection.


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Voter Fraud Arrest In California

In light of the Acorn silliness, we have a real arrest for voter fraud.

State and local investigators allege that Mark Jacoby fraudulently registered himself to vote at a childhood California address where he no longer lives so he would appear to meet the legal requirement that all signature gatherers be eligible to vote in California. His firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM, collects petition signatures and registers voters in California and other states.


Now this is real voter fraud, trying to get a real person voting access in an area that they are not allowed to vote in. This is very very different that what Acorn is accused of doing. The funny thing is this guy was caught in this fraud in an effort to pull off a bigger fraud that is about as silly as what Acorn is being accused of.

He was accused of:

Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department late Saturday came after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by people employed by YPM. The voters said YPM workers tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters.

The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP


At it's base this is very like Acorn's work (person is paid per form filled out), except no one at Acorn has ever been arrested for Voter Fraud and there has yet to be any evidence of Acorn changed people party affiliation without their approval.

For our slightly slow folks on the right the only fraud that has been seen in the Acorn cases has been their employees trying to get paid when they have not done real work. This is fraud against Acorn, not fraud by Acorn. So, why does Acorn files these 'fake' forms? By law Acorn has no option but to submit the flawed forms even if they know they are fake (Mickey Mouse, Donald Trump, Al Coholic etc). They have even tried to work with the authorities by submitting suspect forms separately and looking at charging their staff members.

In addition, even if an bad employee some how gets Mickey Mouse registered to vote, Mickey still has to actually vote (or take other actions that having a voter registration is required for) for voter fraud to occur. Mickey being registered is not voter fraud. There is no evidence that this has or will be occurring.

It is a false flag, a lie, to distract from the real issues of the day.

But for those keeping score, the number of voter fraud cases this year, by political party:

Republicans 1
Democrats 0


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