Monday, June 19, 2006

So How Do We Treat Those We Capture?

Beating; punching with fists; use of truncheons; kicking; slamming against walls; stretching or suspension (to tear ligaments or muscles to cause asphyxia); external electric shocks; forcing prisoners to abase and to urinate on themselves; forced masturbation; forced renunciation of religion; false confessions or accusations; applying urine and feces to prisoners; making verbal threats to a prisoner and his family; denigration of a prisoner's religion; force-feeding; induced hypothermia and exposure to extreme heat; dietary manipulation; use of sedatives; extreme sleep deprivation; mock executions; water immersion; "water-boarding"; obstruction of the prisoner's airway; chest compression; thermal burning; rape; dog bites; sexual abuse; forcing a prisoner to watch the abuse or torture of a loved one.


At least according to Stephen Mills new book these are the interrogation techniques seen in US camps.

For the sake of those two soldiers missing in Iraq, I hope their captors don't follow our example. I pray for these men, but don't hold out much hope.


UPDATE

Media reports indicate that our mens bodies have been found, there are indications of torture.

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7 comments:

Dancewater said...

I think you left off a few....

forced tube feeding, holding relatives until the wanted person turns himself in, stuffing into sleeping bags head first and then sitting on them and thereby suffocating them, beating them to death, constant intense light, or keeping in the dark 100% of the time, butting into small box like cages where they cannot stand up or lie down, did you mention raping children in front of their parents?

I think the only thing we can leave out is beheading.... they done all the rest.


over a hundred have died from injuries recieved while in US custody in Afghanistan and Iraq

JFH said...

Um, "forced feeding" ain't torture, it's required to keep prisoners that are on a hunger strike ALIVE... Raping children in front of their children?? OH PLEASE!!!

Anonymous said...

I noticed you didn't chalange:

holding relatives until the wanted person turns himself in, stuffing into sleeping bags head first and then sitting on them and thereby suffocating them, beating them to death, constant intense light, or keeping in the dark 100% of the time, butting into small box

and the vast majority of the other charges.

So those are acceptable?

Lynne said...

jfh, you obviously don't know anything about force feeding. It is torture.
"It is painful, Edmonson admits. Although 'non-narcotic pain relievers such as ibuprofen are usually sufficient, sometimes stronger drugs,' including opiates such as morphine, have had to be administered."

and this
"Detainees' lawyers have previously accused the military of violently shoving tubes through the men's noses and into their stomachs without anesthesia or sedatives and then hurling religious taunts at them when they vomited blood."

Americans are so insulated and arrogant as to believe we are the "good guys" in all of this. We are not. It has apparently not occured to you that the condition of being held for over 4 years by a hostile enemy, with no hope of escape and no contact with the outside world, would lead one to attempt suicide. The three who did succeed in killing themselves escaped the only way they had.
History will not reflect kindly on America under the Bush regime.

Jon said...

Raping children in front of their children?? OH PLEASE!!!

This one is clearly outside the new standards of acceptable torture that this administration has devised, but it doesn't mean it has not happened. There have been hints that there is evidence of this occurring at Abu Ghrab, but no hard evidence that I know of.

However, as has been pointed out, even if the rape never occurred, even if the forced feeding was done humanly, that still leaves a collection of abhorrent behavior that is now perceived as the norm, and that is not what my nation should stand for.

Dancewater said...

it was raping children in front of their parents, not children in front of their children.....

no hard proof of that, but lots of stories that it happened - just like there were lots of stories about the dogs and the beatings and all the rest before the photos of Abu Ghraib came out.

So far, the US forces have not beheaded anyone - although it is hard to see the difference between that and shooting them point blank in the head (which they have done).


The US forces are not the good guys in Iraq, for the most part. We are the invaders, and we have killed tens of thousands, or maybe hundreds of thousands..... you see, we don't know how many Iraqis we have killed, becaue we don't care to know.


Which clearly underlines that we are not the "good guys" there.

Anonymous said...

"What you reap is what you sow" and "do unto others as you would have them do to you" come to mind.