In Iraq, For the second day in a row, attacks at Iraqi markets have killed at least 50 people. The divisions are being driven deeper, and at least two different political parties have announced that they are boycotting participation in the government.
And, as a reminder, Bin Laden is still free and still calling for war.
The Republicans love to claim they are the ones who do security right, but based on what they have achieved in the last 6 years, they look a lot more like a low rent version of the Keystone Kops. Our nation can not survive much more of their continued incompetence.Tags
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After one attack per year for over a decade and now not one in 5 years = failure?
Not quite.
Maybe you are right though....we should just reinstate Mullah Omar and Saddam Hussein to their "rightful" thrones because Bush "lied" about them being a threat and they really deserve to be back in charge of their countries maintaining "peace" there as you wish.
Well, by your standards the Clinton Administration was a HUGE success, with, in 8 years, only one very limited attack, that failed in it's objective. but they also failed to address the issue well (mostly because of Republican kibitzing when he tried to get serious).
I am glad to see you admit Bush lied, but you are aware (I hope) that he only lied about Saddam.
Omar was a legitimate target, and our failure in Afghanistan was not the atttack, but the failure to do it right.
Omar needed to be removed, and needed to be completly removed, Saddam needed to be choaked off, and left to starve to death.
Instead, we leave Omar free to run around the Middle East (he, like Bin Laden, has still not been captured), withdraw assetts from the real area of concern to go attack Iraq (based, as you noted on lies).
Now, the Taliban, a group that Bush and his less than bright menions claimed were defeated years ago, are able to take over cities, and chase the local authorities out. They have risen again, and Afganistan is now headed down the path the Iraq is on.
And you appear to think this is success.
Amazing
Bush has given us two Vietnams simultaneously.
Viet Nam whats? If your attempting to Assimilate the Wars in Afganastan and Iraq with Viet Nam, it doesnt work. They are in no way similar in any stretch of the Imagination.
I guess parroting the Talking Heads in the Media, you have a point huh?
I think that the term Vietnam, when refering you our current conflicts is overused.
But it's over use doesn't mean it doesn't apply. If you consider that Vietnam was an unwinable war, and that we continued to fight because our leadership (Johnson and Nixon) lacked the courage to admit failure, then the analogy seems to fit.
It depends on context, but there is a lot more in common than many (icluding myself)would like to see,
Well thats like calling a Hot Tub a Jacuzzi. They both have the same function but only one is a Jacuzzi.
To call a War a Vietnam simply because there is fighting in someone elses country by Americans who really have a tough task ahead of them. I just hope this doesnt turn into a lack of suppport for soldiers who are put into harms way by no fault of their own other than they signed up to protect me and you so we could post our thoughts on the internet. When they return from their ASSIGNMENT, they are hugged, hands shaken, loved and embraced instead of cursed, spit on and rejected.
Clinton was not near the success you seem to think he was in terms of one battle in 8 years. What about Bosnia and the Kosovo War?
He in fact deployed our troops to Somalia, Haiti, Twice to Yugoslavia,Several times he launched attacks on Innocent Iraq. He launched missile attacks on Afghanastan to blow up Al-Qaeda in Kandahar after some Embassy bombings, and an Asprirn factory in Sudan(remember that one?).
So as you can see a D or an R after your name and location makes no difference. Other than to carry over your High School antics. It sounds a lot like Your school sucks. Our team can beat your team.
But both a Hot Tub and a Jacuzzi are forms of baths, and are often used interchangably.
Mayby not 100% correct, but it can be effictive when trying to make a quick point.
Just as referencing Vietnam when talking about any other conflict can.
When they return from their ASSIGNMENT, they are hugged, hands shaken, loved and embraced instead of cursed, spit on and rejected.
The Vietnam vets were not ill treated untill that war was 8-10 years old (late 60s onward). The troops who attacked Iraq will still be well recievied for a while, but if the war (not occupation, but combat) continues for 3-5 more years I suspect that may change.
Clinton was not near the success you seem to think he was in terms of one battle in 8 years. What about Bosnia and the Kosovo War?
earlier you implied that Bush was a success because there was
not one in 5 years = failure?
Not quite.
Well, that appears to indicate that since there has been no attack on US soil since the WTC attacks Bush was a success.
By that Standard (the one you are promoting, not me) Clinton was a huge success since there was only 1 attack in his 8 years in office.
Now you appear to be confusing terror attacks with millitary engagements.
yes Cinton did deploy US forces a number of times (some were good moves, some were not), as has Bush (again some good, some very poor).
The difference is Clinton did not tie us down in a conflict that will end up costing us a Trillion dollars, thousands of lifes for what will be, in the end, a total failure of policy.
Would "anonymous" please point to one, just one, Bush success since January 2001?
(And appointing as his state campaign chairs the Florida and Ohio secretaries of state doesn't count.)
He got Re-elected?
Bin Laden may not be the guy you're looking for. Check out his FBI "bio".
I can't find any charges for the 9/11 attacks. This should be no brainer. They've got nothing on this guy.
They arent finding Bin Laden, because they arent looking for Bin Laden.
Bush and Bin laden are in the same camp. They Bin Ladens in Saudi Arabia own Bush, Bush owns a lot of their Stock. Why hunt down and kill the Son, no matter how bad he is, of the man who lines your pockets?
You people all argue about politics like there are people on sides. They are all the same! they have figured out the game, and they play it well. They are like Magicians. You are watching the one hand holding Medicare, Social Security, and Welfare Assistance, while picking your pockets to pay for their salaries legislating you down to a nobody.
They also create things like War, Scandal, and many other Crisis to keep your eyes off the corruption.
Keep your eye on the prize.
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