A terrorist group captures one of your soldiers, you blow up the only power plant in the region.
Another terrorist group then captures two of your soldiers, and you blow up an airport half a country away from the border.
In addition, your actions are killing scores of civilians in both areas.
Is there a chance that all you are doing is creating MORE terrorist (just like the current US policies are).
Just something to consider.
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Terrorists need no inspiration to do what they do. Sadly, if we give them no reasons, they make some up. We will never understand someones desire to die for their cause. A lot of the things we feel strongly about, we would never want to die for. We also do not feel as strongly about the things they have been fighting over for over 2,000 years. I guess this is what happens when you pick sides, let alone try and protect your own interests in all this volitility. I guess 72 Virgins Trumps anything we got to offer.
If they have a cause, then they have a reason.
your argument is flawed from the start.
Not from the Start. At least a couple of lines down. I also use the term cause very loosly. Just because a person has a self proclaimed cause, does not make it valid, nor a cause. So therefor my argument has no flaws at all. Unless 72 Virgins qualifies as a cause. Then Im flawed again.
IF a person has a cause, that is AUTOMATICALLY a reason.
Now, you may dismiss their reason as being not valid, but that is again flawed.
Their reason may be not valid to you, but it is clearly valid to them. By dismising them or ignoring them, you are assuring the continued growth.
The only way to defeat them is to address the issues that cause their growth so that the growth stops.
I just heard Dictator Bush on TV saying that "Isreal has a right to defend itself against terrorists".
If this logic is carried through, doesn't it mean that Lebenon and Palestine should also have the right to protect themselves from terrorist attacks?
I fail to understand how bombing a residential building and killing 40 innocent people (many or which were women and children) in Lebenon does not constitute a terrorist act!
Well, I just dont want to die for believing in a Triune God if thats what I want to believe in. Just like I dont want to Kill them for believing in Allah, Buddah, whomever they believe in. And to them, that is not open to discussion. When they take over a Territory, they tear down all Christian Religous symbolism and reference. In land occupied by Israelis, they have always respected and left even the Mosques intact. Prodestant - Catholic, Muslim - Christian, Athiest - anybody. Cant we all just agree to disagree and move on? These are the same root "causes" that have caused death and destruction since man has come along. I wonder if the Dinosaurs fought about anything?
John,
I love ya man. I really am going to get my blog started lol.
well, to start with this conflict is not about faith, it is about land. As this map indicates this was, prior to the 1940s the british Palestinen Mandate, not Israel.
Prior to that is was part of the Ottoman Empire.
These were primarlly Arab and Islamic populations, kept under Arab rule.
After WWII Israel was carved out of a slice of land that ws populated by mostly Arab peoples.
They want their land.
Now, I agree with creation of the state of Israel, and think that the local population and neighboring states have made a number of huge mistakes and do not support their terroristic efforts in this conflict, but that doesnt' mean that these is not a solid reason for them to be upset, and that their cause can be dismissed without consideration.
In addition, you view that Islam doesn't allow others faiths is deeply flawed. If that was true there would have been NO jews or christian churches in Israel in the 40s as the nation was born. In fact, up untill the last 10-20 years there will still thousnads of Jews in Iraq.
Only radical surge in Islam is a very recent trend, and, as much as anything, a product of the failure to have their greviences addressed.
The view that they have no reason, has led to the further radicalzation of many in the Arab society.
The Radical Islam are the Terrorists. And "Death to the Infadels" is a cry often heard from them.
Nice Research. At least they got the side with the Beach. Maybe thats why all the others are pissed.
I think Americans in General, wanting to share our belief system around the world, shove it down peoples throats. Thinking "Be like us, whats the matter with you" plays a major part in this whole thing. We export Hollywood. The Scantily clad women, the misbehaving daughters, the disobedient sons, alcohol consumption, Drug use. Things that generally go against their values and Culture. Our Music which paints quite a picture in ones mind if the Lyrics are read. heck even some of our population is repulsed. In our attempts to reach a broader Market, we go to the far reaches to let every body have some of it. We are some of the biggest offenders of live and let live. If we dont like the way someone is going, we want to change it. Thats part of the Problem with the Religous right whom disregard even their own Values to try and influence the Majority. To continually push their values down our own throats even here at home.
Our indecision and disagreement on what we even want for ourselves doesnt bode well for our actions elsewhere does it. Especially when the righteous side cheats to make their point.
The Radical Islam are the Terrorists. And "Death to the Infadels" is a cry often heard from them.
Yes it is, but this is also a very new development. Prior to the 80's the terrorist were also Arab and Palistinian, but NOT islamic in nature.
Some were nationialist, some were communist or various blends of the two. Some of the terrorist of the 60s and 70s into the 80s were also quite western in their lifestyles and ideas about recreation etc.
That approach and those dogmas died with the failure of achaiving any of their goals, and a new dogma (Radical Islam) rose to again try the terror approach.
but to dismiss them with the bumber sticker slogans promoted by Bush and his weak minded allies will assure the continued growth of their movement.
Is Israel picking a fight for more land grab?
Israel has never wanted to Grab land. In fact they tried to give more land back than the Palestinians wanted and they still kept on Bombing them. They dont want the Israelis there at all. They want their land back. There used to be a 30 mile unoccupied zone between them and Lebanon. Israel backed out. Thats the place where Iranian Soldiers launched Korean/Chinese Missiles into Haifa from. Then Iran whos President is on a Mission from God, told Israel if you touch Syria, there is a price to pay. Yeah there will be a price to pay. If Israel eliminates Syria as an enemy Airspace, they can fly right in and remove Irans Nuclear program. Since with God on his side, the leader of Iran couldnt defeat the Iraqi Military before he finally had to pull out, he has a lot of nerve spouting off now to Israel who sounds like they are tired of negotiating. Plus they have a new President since Sharon left, who is letting them all know, I am not going to take it. Iran wanted this to happen to take pressure off of the meetings relating to their Nuclear program and the world leaders meeting to tell them No More Nukes Period.
Very Scary times we are in.
Anonymous, do us a favour, turn off Fox news.
I dont watch Fox News. Apparently you watch it trying to assimilate my self subscribed point of what is going on. You know what? They have History books! And if you ever happen to read one of them, this crap going on all over the Globe is NOTHING new. The Weapons have improved, the Tactics have improved. The alleged reasons, the ridiculous justifications, and all the excuses are the same. So get off your high horse and read a book.
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